Thursday, 19 January 2012

French Children Don't Throw Food

I am really looking forward to reading French Children Don't Throw Food by Pamela Druckerman. It has been billed in the Daily Mail as being another smug book about how the French do everything better than the Brits, especially the women. But in dissing it (and other books with similar comparisons) like this they are missing the point.

There are massive differences between the way children are brought up in France and in the UK. I am a little conflicted. I have watched more parents with their children in France, but reading British parenting websites. I'm not sure which style is better, or worse, or even how much of each I am adopting.

I don't know if my baby's fabulous sleeping patterns from a very young age are down to me doing it the French way or just because she is naturally a great sleeper. I suspect it is the second. I don't think the French are better parents - just different.

However as far as behaviour is concerned the French do something right. Children sit quietly at table without fidgeting far better than I do even during the interminable million course family celebration meals. They are less fussy about their food. At a wedding I went to last year there were small children - three or four years old - handling and enjoying oysters and sea snails. I used pregnancy as an excuse to stick to bread and butter but in fact even if I did like snails or oysters I wouldn't know how to go about eating them. And asking a four year old for help would have been a little embarassing.

And in restaurants my daughter is welcomed with a high chair and a little plate so she can snack from my dinner. I never get the impression that we are unwelcome for bringing a baby into a restaurant. Food is to be eaten together, as a fmaily, and yes, babies are included in that. When she has cried there have been no tuts or evil looks as I have blushingly taken her from the room, more smiles conveying pity? Understanding? Indulgence.

Older children behave as they know that bad behaviour will not be tolerated. They won't be beaten for crying, but they are aware of the limits and generally keep within boundaries. There are exceptions, of course.

I believe a point is made in the book where they say French mothers are just more relaxed about it all. And I would agree. No-one stresses about how to feed, and no-one is guilty about how they gave birth. No-one makes massive adjustments to their lives for children. Children are expected to fit in, and they generally do.

Much is made of the fact that women in France are offered free post-natal physiotherapy to reduce long term damage to their bits, for want of a better word. British commentors say this is because the French are obsessed with sex and that women are expected to jump back into bed two days after giving birth. I disagree. I believe that it is because French women accept many roles in life. They are mothers, lovers, daughters, colleagues and individuals with needs. They do not define themselves completely by any one of these roles. They do not stop being a wife because they become a mother. And even more importantly they do not lose a sense of self identity and self worth. Being back in good physical shape as soon as possible is as much and probably more for them as individuals than for their partners. They consider themselves as women, individuals with needs. And feeling good about one's body is part of self confidence. It's important. The same attitude applies to breastfeeding. Lots of women breastfeed in France, but it is not the be all and end all. If a woman feels better if she stops, no-one judges her for it. You certainly won't read forums where the main topic is how to keep going with the nursing when it's going badly. They will say fine, I did my best, je ne vais pas me prendre la tĂȘte. I'm not going to worry about it.

I am of course making massive generalisations, but instead of rejecting outright that French mothers do things in a different way, and sometimes possibly in a better way, I will be at the front of the queue to read about what this author perceives to be the differences. I may disagree, but it will be interesting. Because being open to other ways of doing things and learning from them can only be a good thing. Right?

PS. I'd like to say here again that I don't think things are necessarily better in France. Women aren't all thinner and they are certainly not all sex kittens ready to hop into bed at any time, always wearing gorgeous lingerie and then puffing on Gitanes at the end. That's just a stereotype. The fact that some people tend to believe in it indictaes quite a high level of gullibility or lack of self esteem. And why wouldn't women in the UK be suffering from a lack of self-esteem. They are bombarded with hatred and comparisons from the media every day. That's for another post (and quite a few of my previous posts), but life is very different for women in France. In good ways, and bad. And one of the good ways is that they are not permanently made to feel bad about the fact they are women. The differences between men and women are celebrated. The press over here is, in fact, surprisingly far less mysogynistic than in the UK. Sexism is everywhere, but not misogyny.


8 comments:

  1. I was told the perinea exercises were to stop unwanted leaks. I went through it the first time but not the second as my bits seemed to be well in order.

    I must say that going to a restaurant where there a wailing child is not pleasant. I go to restaurants to have a peaceful time and if there is a wailing baby I expect the parents to do the right thing for the benefit of everyone else's enjoyment (which they are paying for). I know I did. I might be English (so I would think like that...) but my partner is French and he totally agrees.

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  2. I agree - and I have never seen parents here keep crying babies in a restaurant. But as you go outside people are nice about it- maybe because they fully expect you will take the child outside

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    1. I have, the parents tried to shh the small child but hung on until one had finished eating, then that parent went outside.

      I now know which restaurants are likely to attract parents and babies/small children and avoid them if I am child free.

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  3. Oh, that is a really interesting post.

    Am going to read the book, it sounds interesting.

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  4. "There are massive differences between the way children are brought up in France and in the UK"

    There are also massive differences between how some children are brought up in the UK and other children are brought up in the UK. I think the book sounds interesting, I just don't like the generalisations. Is the author really saying that all French parents do everything the same way, with no choices to make, no conflicts in advice, no freedom to do things differently?

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  5. Interesting. I imagine there are pros and cons in every country in the world, not just France and the UK. The problem with parents in the UK is the competition is incredibly fierce as to who has the most developed, brainiest and healthiest child; which parent knows more, who can breast feed for longer, who thinks they've failed blah blah blah. I can't comment of French women because I don't know any, but it sure wouldn't hurt if British women relaxed a little and stopped judging each other as though they're in a contest. Parenting comes with experience. The competition could be fierce in France as well, I don't know, but do sometimes feel saddened by our incredible ability to judge which will inevitably make parent feel uncomfortable, stressed and a failure.

    CJ x

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  6. I live in France since 20 years, and I can tell you that French education is certainly not the best. French women have very few time for theme and leave them to "creches" when they are 2 month old. 30 % of the adultes take "antidepresser" and you see not often a child laughing here, like in Italy or Germany. French women are quite egoisticaly and they think firstly about themselves. My daughter grow up in this country, but my education is very differente, as I am Austrian. I had always enough time for here, and now she is 18, very balanced, with many friends, and everybody is amazed here, that she is so joyfull. She attractes other people and gives them the love wich they didn't get in their homes. So please stop to say, french women are so good. They are very cold and the children have not much love and attention here in this country

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  7. Thanks for your comment on my "Gutsy Living" website and I like your approach to the same article I wrote about. Of course there are pros and cons, and I didn't realize how Crystal described English women in the same way as U.S. women: competitive, etc.
    I've lived in all 3 countries: UK, France, U.S., and I think being slightly "selfish" meaning, caring about yourself and your spouse is not a bad thing after you've had a child. After all, kids need to become independent, and you'll have a life after your children leave the nest.

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